Housework, Time, Food

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I'm gonna grab the cello ^__^

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Haha. For the first time you've got me wanting to move to America. Your men do housework? Shit. I'm going to book my airline ticket today!

I only know of two families where the man does as much housework as the wife. In one the wife had a mental breakdown so she was incapable of doing anything, in the other instance my uncle likes his you-beaut barbeque so he loves regularly cooking dinner. Aside from that the women I know do almost everything. I think it comes down to the laid back attitude of both genders. If you're going to be laid back about everything then sadly that also includes vacuuming and dusting. Except women seem to be pre-programmed to notice dust and dirt. And if only one person in the house honestly cares that the carpet is crunchy underfoot they're usually the one who ends up vacuuming the bloody thing. Which could explain why Australian women have one of the lowest participation rates of full-time paid work in the Western world. We're too busy picking up socks and mopping the floor!

Here's a link to an Australian study about the division of housework. The main barrier to equal divisions housework here seems to be that women don't find it a problem doing 70% of the work! It's interesting that the attitude is reversed in America, where they think it's unfair but it appears it is actually fair once you count the hours of work.

One last note: I for one am happy to count handy-man tasks as housework. The problem is that EWK only plays Mr Fix-It once or twice per year on average! I'd gladly swap roles except I know that the floor would develop its own ecosystem within a week and we'd starve to death in a fortnight.

Well, I'd have to say that women do seem to be programmed to notice these things, except me. I kept my own place quite tidy when I was single without really thinking about it, and I have been shocked to find that our house now does not naturally stay tidy. So, wait, I guess I do notice--I just don't happen to care very much. I don't really like the persistent clutter and bits of glitter left over from art projects, but I find I have better things to do with my time than clean them up. My husband is tidier than I am and I would say if I didn't stay home with the kid, he would do a much larger share of housework than I do. I'm lazy that way. Ha. Things don't need to be so clean, you know--a little exposure to dirt and germs is healthy! Or that's my excuse. I'm a sorry excuse for a housewife. I hang my head in shame.

Let me see: cleaning the yard everyday, doing laundry every weekend, ironing, getting the cars serviced, doing the weekly banking, getting everybody up everyday, driving the kids to their daily destinations, weekly grocery shopping, paying bills every couple of days, keeping my investments on track, kicking the arses of shoddy workmen when it has to be done, feeding and watering the dogs daily, keeping my plants alive everyday, taking the rubbish out daily, and generally all jobs which involve getting sweaty and hands dirty including cleaning skidmarks off the toilets (yeah, this one deserves a gold medal).

Yeah, the missus cooks one meal a day for about 3-4 weekdays, and I'm lucky to get two cooked meals on weekends.

So thank you for standing on my side of the gender fence. To hell with the BS about men not doing their share. Let my data drive this theory for a change. I'm so tired of hearing this sort of crap about men being painted as generally useless.

Hahahaha. OK, I do more housework than your missus, so I guess I'm not totally worthless. I do A LOT of food preparation/cooking stuff, since I do so much canning and freezing of the garden goodies, and I also do a lot of the yardwork. I do all laundry and full time childcare (which I usually see less as a job and more as fun) and all the crappy financial stuff--that's the part I like least. But I am opposed to ironing--let the tyranny of the wrinkle-free end, I say!

I'm so tired of hearing this sort of crap about men being painted as generally useless.

Unfortunately they're generally painted that way because the statistics say that most men are that way (in Australia at least). Good on you for being one of the ones that actually pulls their finger out when it comes to the chores! Hopefully one day we'll get to a stage where the data doesn't support those generalisations and both genders contribute equally to all forms of work.

In your list you didn't mention who does the daily washing up, the vacuuming, the dusting and mopping though. Does your wife do that or does she only cook once per day? I wouldn't want you to paint your wife as useless if she actually does a lot more than you've said! ;-)
Just had a chat to EWK about this and he pointed out something that hadn't occurred to me. Since Australia has a large percentage of foreign born citizens compared to other countries (22%) a lot of these attitudes toward housework are actually inherited from other cultures and tend to disappear after a few generations. I know that as a first generation Aussie I'd be mortified if EWK did all the cleaning while I was out! It would almost be implying that I am incapable of doing the housework. I know other women who are either migrants or first generation who feel the same way. Luckily the fifth generation Australians will look at you like you're mental if you mention this feeling of having a 'duty' to do the bulk of the housework. So in many ways it's not men's expectations that drives the imbalance of housework, it's the women who are training them not to do it!
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Love this. I have to say I never thought about the housework thing but it's very true! I rely on my husband for those "man" things, too. I mean, I don't know how to fix drippy faucets. How bad is that? I think the problem, for me at least, is that my husband doesn't seem to keep the same time frame for work that I do. I want to control him and dictate to him when he will fix the drippy faucet according to my schedule. Of course, this is a whole other issue...
But I really liked the second half of this. This is exactly how I feel about food and eating and family but I'm just not able to say it right. Like the American mom here (in Japan) who lamented the fact that her Kraft mac and cheese boxes were all gone... So, what, no more mac and cheese? Does she think it originated in a blue and orange and white box?
Sometimes I wish I didn't love food and enjoying a meal and company so much, that I could be one of those people who forget to eat. But I just don't understand how people forget to eat. You're not hungry? What's that gnawing in the pit of your stomach? You're not missing the ritual of creating and enjoying and talking about the day? People have gotten away from that but it's everything I look forward to all day!

I do all the vaccuming while she mops... which is when she feels up to it. True. Oh, did I tell you that until recently, I also climbed on my rooftop to clean the choked gutters every 2 months and man, you know how hot the thing gets up there in summer? I swear, it's a guaranteed sunburn every two months when I have to go up there. Fixed that by paying someone to install leaf guards.

And the loading and unloading of the dishwasher? I've got to rant and rave for the Ninjettes to get their butts into gear about that... often, I end up doing it. It's getting there, but I have to watch for mental lapses on their part. You know, the kind when they say: "Oh, I thought you were doing that..?" Who's the bunny then??

I seriously blame her parents (her bonehead mum especially) for being shit scared of getting her to do more chores around the house when she was growing up. Still remember her proudly proclaiming once: "I didn't want them to grow up deprived." WTF??? And guess who's now having to un-train all of that bullshit and get her onto a newer program, 20 years after we've been married?? That's why I try to limit the Ninjettes' contact with them otherwise they'll get brainwashed into thinking and behaving that lazy-arse way.

Look, I love my clan dearly. And no, the Queen Ninja isn't totally useless... not anymore than I am, let's put it that way. But I'll be damned if one day, people walked into my house and said: "Wow, aren't you lucky to have a family that knows how to keep house." The fracas about a minute after that statement would be on the evening news I daresay.

Bottom line: I detest lazy arse prima donnas. Couldn't care less if they're male or female. And there are a lot on both sides of the fence. It's just that I get this urge to projectile vomit when one side gets painted as being the drop kick all the time. In my book, that's a pile of frogshit that's clearly untrue.

That's interesting, and I'd bet that you're right. It's true of immigrants here. I'm sure in a couple of generations, these ladies will wise up.

The Ninja is right--you have to start when they're young. Kids who get treated like prima donnas don't learn to clean up after themselves and do the housework, boy or girl, but girls usually get more of it put on them. We have a son, and I can assure you that he is already learning to cook and pick up after himself. We have a long way to go, but he is only 3.

Yep, when you told me about Kraft lady, this is totally what I was thinking about. Mac-n-cheese is a venerable old dish, and homemade is not only relatively chemical free, it also tastes WAYYYY better. My son could already tell you that. Hee. Anyway, I'm glad to hear your family at least is keeping up with the family meal. We are, too, but I'm sad to say that the dining room table has been overrun by tomato seedlings (because my husband has still not built me my greenhouse! the louse!), so we're eating in the living room.
Yep, doing chores has a real role in my book to building self-reliance and developing ingenuity. A lot of the Gen Ys leaving home for the first time would have trouble knowing how to feed themselves properly or operate basic kitchen appliances. Why bother? Pick up the phone and dial-a-pizza! You know what I'm getting at...
My husband's SIL made up a batch of Kraft one time for Sophie and then remarked in real surprise later how Sophie hadn't eaten any of it and she'd never known a kid who didn't like mac-n-cheese. Well, Sophie'd never had bright orange Kraft mac-n-cheese with the fake powdered cheese. It was completely foreign to her...
I've got to stick by our family evenings here. It's keeping me sane.
Your dining room table will be back to normal soon and then you'll have all those tomatoes!

Oh, yes, I know what you're getting at, but we don't stand for it around here. I'm already teaching my son to cook--he makes oatmeal for breakfast and glazed carrots at dinner (and, so, yes, we eat a lot of damned glazed carrots, because he is so proud of his skill and wants to do it all the time, but it's hard to think of a reason not to eat glazed carrots every night). Obviously, this requires a lot of supervision, as he is only 3 and I don't let him handle the sweet Japanese knives. And he has chores, minimal yet, but he knows where the garbage and the laundry basket is, so I don't see any reason why he shouldn't put his own garbage and laundry into them. He's also become quick to fetch a rag and wipe up when he spills something. I feel like such a slavedriver--he's only 3! and I don't know a lot of other 3 year olds who have been trained thusly--but I don't see why he shouldn't start learning. I don't expect him to keep his room spotless, just functionally clean. He is also learning to garden and getting better at that. For special jobs he gets paid, too, and he has his own bank account. Not that he has anything to spend his money on, but someday I'm sure he's going to.

Anyway, I'll be damned if a son of me is going off on his own to wallow about in ramen and delivered pizza. No way. Besides, glazed carrots will totally impress the ladies (not so sure about the oatmeal...).

Good for you and the little man! Very proud.
Hehehe. Good for you and for your Sophie! I cannot tell you how pleased I am to hear of her rejecting the Kraft. That's my kind of girl!

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